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Jun 04 2025

#359: Christianity in Chaos? How We Can Find Our Way In An Age of Confusion and Corruption with Glenn Packiam

Today’s interview is with Glenn Packiam – if you’re not familiar with Glenn, he’s one of the modern worship OGs. I mean, Desperation Band, new Life Worship. He wrote the song Your Name with Paul Baloche.

But over the years Glenn’s journey has moved from worship ministry to pastoral ministry. He was the campus pastor at New Life Church’s downtown campus in CO and is now the Lead Pastor at Rock Harbor in Orange County, CA.

Glenn is a deep well and a balanced voice in the church. In this interview we break down his recent book “What’s a Christian Anyway” a wonderful book based on the Nicene creed.

We talk about how we can glean insights from various church traditions, why creeds are important, why the church’s reputation is suffering in America today, how lead pastors and worship leaders can understand each other better, and what to look for in hiring a worship pastor.

Topics Covered:

  • We talk about how we can glean insights from various church traditions
  • Why creeds are important
  • Why the church’s reputation is suffering in America today
  • How lead pastors and worship leaders can understand each other better
  • What to look for in hiring a worship pastor. So let’s get right to my conversation with Glenn Packiam.

Resources Mentioned:

  • Show Sponsor: Planning Center
  • What’s a Christian Anyway: Finding Our Way in an Age of Confusion and Corruption by Glenn Packiam
  • What’s a Christian Anyway website
  • No Rules Rules: Netflix and the Culture of Innovation by Reed Hastings & Erin Meyer
  • Steps: A Guide to Transforming Your Life When Willpower Isn’t Enough by John Ortberg

Show Sponsor: Planning Center

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

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In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

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Written by David Santistevan · Categorized: Worship Leaders

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