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May 15 2013

#8: The Calling And Competency Of A Worship Pastor: An Interview With Rick Muchow [Podcast]

ftr_rickmuchow2There is a big difference between leading worship and leading people.

To lead worship, all you need is a musical skill set. To lead people requires so much more.

In this podcast I sit down with Rick Muchow. Rick was the Worship Pastor at Saddleback church for 25 years, working under the leadership of Pastor Rick Warren.

He had some fantastic insights to share as it relates to pastoring people in worship.

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Notes From This Episode

  • Love God and love people – the DNA that never dies.
  • Rick Warren read one book a day for 15 years because he wanted to continually grow as a leader.
  • Anyone can be brilliant if they spend a lot of time learning.
  • When you lead worship, don’t shoot for a home run…just get a base hit every week.
  • Saddleback was built on the weekend experience – people came and got connected.
  • An artist is like a fire – people say “wow”. A worship leader lights the fire – they connect people to God.
  • The “Wow” experience in worship comes from being connected to God.
  • The goal of a worship pastor is to recruit, shepherd, train, delegate, encourage, love the team, and pray for the team.
  • A lot of worship leaders feel that the church is there to serve them – it’s their audience. Rather, see them as an army waiting to be released.
  • Recruiting tip: Look for people who need to use their gifts so they will feel fulfilled as a person.
  • Break down the jobs in your ministry. Then recruit for them!
  • Hire people that are better than you at certain things.
  • Don’t be intimidated by talent. Leverage it.
  • Delegate. Delegate. Delegate.
  • Stick with what you’re good at and put people around you who can do everything else.
  • Whatever you demonstrate will be caught. Your team will become like you.
  • Worship “flow” is about taking people on a journey.

Resources

  • Rick’s website: http://rickmuchow.com
  • The Worship Answer Book by Rick Muchow
  • Brandon Muchow Music (Rick’s son)
  • Rick’s Best Key Finder app

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Written by David Santistevan · Categorized: Podcast

Comments

  1. Mac Dwyer says

    May 15, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    This could be one of the most practical, useful interviews/discussions about how to create, develop, lead and grow a worship department that I have ever heard. Thanks David!

    • David Santistevan says

      May 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm

      Mac, that means a lot bro! I agree – I was taking crazy notes through the interview 🙂

  2. Vicki says

    May 17, 2013 at 8:21 am

    Thanks for the notes you made too! Will come back to this and listen again!! I really look forward to these! Keep them coming!

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