One of the practices that I believe is important for the church in America is to regularly evaluate and interrogate the systems we operate by. What can often pass as biblical is actually just business. What we believe to be Christian is actually just American. When we evaluate the systems we are shaped by, we are more prepared to pivot when our systems hurt people. When the efficiency of our churches miss what the Bible calls us to.
Is it all bad? Of course not. Is it all broken? Of course not. The church imperfect. We are imperfect. I am far from perfect. But if we don’t have the courage to ask questions we can focus more on organizational progress than we do pastoral care.
My conversation today is with my good friend Michael Olson. Michael is an author, musician, and worship leader. He’s a recording artists. He traveled the world playing drums for Michael W Smith. Over the last 16 years he’s led worship at two of the fastest growing churches in America. He’s also written a beautiful new memoir called Daddy Set The Church on Fire: A Journey Toward Restoration.
At the heart of this book is the reality that Jesus is making all things new. The church is broken. We are broken. This world is broken. But if we have eyes to see, there is redemption all around.
This is a conversation for you if you follow Jesus. If you’ve been hurt by the church. If you haven’t been hurt by the church. If you’re a worship leader and feel like a cog in an endless machine of efficiency. If you feel broken by the weight of loss and pain. We talk all about it.
Topics Covered:
- Developing a theology of suffering
- The highs and lows of growing up Pentecostal
- What we can learn about Spirit and Truth from Eugene Peterson
- The diversity of the body of Christ within the attractional mega church, reformed church, and Pentecostal church
- The tension between organizational progress and pastoral care
- The story behind Michael’s book title, “Daddy Set The Church on Fire”
Resources Mentioned:
- Show Sponsor: Planning Center
- Michael’s Website
- Daddy Set The Church on Fire by Michael Charles Olson
- Songs of Restoration by Michael Charles Olson
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