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May 07 2025

#355: How Industry And Christian Product Has Influenced Worship in the Local Church with Andrew Osenga

Today’s conversation is with Andrew Osenga. Andrew is an artist, songwriter, producer, musician, and author. He used to do A&R with Integrity Music. Used to have a band called The Normals. Was a part of Caedmon’s Call. Has a host of solo records and albums. He’s a very thoughtful voice in this space of worship and spiritual formation. He leads a project called Anchor Hymns. This was a deep, far ranging conversation.

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Written by David Santistevan · Categorized: Worship Leaders

Apr 25 2025

#354: Leading Teams and Leading Worship in a Mega Church with Jordan Howerton

Today’s conversation is an interesting juxtaposition to last week’s podcast with Jason Houtsma. Jason leads worship in a church of less than 100 people. Today’s guest – Jordan Howerton – is the Worship Pastor for one of the largest churches in the country – Christ’s Church of the Valley in Phoenix, AZ.

If you’ve listened to the my podcast for a while, you’ll know I don’t believe bigger is better. There is beauty in small. There is dignity in serving and pastoring a small church with incremental or slow growth year after year. But for today, I want us to dive into the mega church dynamic.

  • What does it take to lead a staff of 70 people in worship and production?
  • How can you care for and pastor hundreds of volunteers?
  • How do you develop a unified worship culture across 18 campuses?
  • We dive into all of that here. My conversation with Jordan Howerton 
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Written by David Santistevan · Categorized: Worship Leaders

Apr 17 2025

#353: Small Church Worship, Click Tracks, & How Anyone Can Make a Worship Album with Jason Houtsma

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Written by David Santistevan · Categorized: Worship Leaders

Apr 09 2025

#352: Discipleship, Ego, & Pursuing the Presence of God in Your Local Church with John Wilds

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Written by David Santistevan · Categorized: Worship Leaders

Apr 02 2025

#351: Anointing Over Gifting, Women in Worship, & Evaluating the Foundation of Our Ministries with Natalie Runion

Today’s conversation is with Natalie Runion – Natalie is a worship leader, author, speaker, and founder of the online community Raised to Stay. She’s written two books – Raised to Stay and The House that Jesus Built, both powerful, insightful reads into the realities of local church ministry.

In this conversation we talk about worship ministry tensions, aging out of ministry roles, challenges for women in ministry, the idol of green room culture, responding to church hurt, and why our obsession with church growth can get us off track.

Natalie is bold, challenging, and an important voice to the church today.

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Written by David Santistevan · Categorized: Worship Leaders

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