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Nov 18 2025

#376: An Honest Look At The Systems That Shape The Church In America with Phillip Joubert

One of my goals with this podcast is not simply to talk about the spiritual but also the systemic. One could argue that the two are actually intertwined. Can Christian spirituality thrive in the midst of a toxic system? Is it possible to be formed opposite the ways of Jesus while using the name of Jesus? These are important questions to wrestle with and hold up to cultural Christianity today. We must talk about the cultural systems we are shaped by. That’s not divisive or an attack of the enemy. The truth always shines a light. And the truth will always lead us to greater unity, even if some systems we’ve held dear need to come down.

Part of being a faithful follower of Jesus in the world is paying attention to what is of God and what is not. And that’s why I wanted to have a conversation with my friend Phillip Joubert. Phillip is an artist with Common Hymnal, one of my favorite Christian artist collectives out there right now. They are making music that is a refreshing counterpoint to popular Christian music today. It’s Jesus AND justice. It’s praise AND protest. It’s worship music that is rooted in the goodness of God but with a grip on the reality of our world. Phillip is a truth teller. A prophet, you might say. The voice of someone who spots trends and speaks with moral clarity and biblical conviction.

Topics Covered:

  • Why praise and protest are needed in our spiritual formation
  • Why worship culture tends to be tone deaf
  • Why we need to decolonize our theology of success
  • A different alternative to an industry of worship
  • The importance of understanding whiteness as a culture
  • Why America needs to be seen as a religion
  • Thoughts on Bad Bunny and rival Super Bowl halftime shows
  • What we can learn from the Maverick City controversy

Resources Mentioned:

  • Show Sponsor: Planning Center
  • Phillip Joubert
  • Common Hymmal

Show Sponsor:

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Written by David Santistevan · Categorized: Podcast

Oct 22 2025

#374: What We Can All Learn From The Theological And Musical Tradition Of The Black Church with Rev. Dr. Otis Moss III

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Jul 10 2025

#363: The Current State Of Christian Music with Dustin Lolli From Sanctus Real

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May 22 2025

#357: The Separation of Church and Concert with Andy Cherry

Today’s conversation is with my friend Andy Cherry. Andy is a Worship Leader, former Worship Pastor, Songwriter with Capitol CMG, and touring bandmate with Brandon Lake.

Andy is mega talented and a thoughtful voice on the tensions of worship and industry. As a professional songwriter, he’s someone whose livelihood is connected to the worship industry. We have a great chat about excellence culture in the church. Has it gone too far? Why it’s uncomfortable to combine the words “worship” and “industry”.   Why we need to expand the kinds of leaders we hire into Worship Pastor roles. At the heart of it all is a love for Jesus, a passion for His presence, and a desire to serve the people of God through honest art and biblical faithfulness.

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Written by David Santistevan · Categorized: Podcast

Mar 19 2025

#349: Darwin Hobbs on Finding Your Voice, Gospel Music in the Church, & Why We Can’t Stop Talking About Racism.

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